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Comment by Claire (aka Cleo) on May 8, 2012 at 9:13pm

It truly is fine indeed De Villo!

Wait! What is "Meta-L?" I missed that...

Comment by De Villo Sloan on May 8, 2012 at 9:11pm

Thanks, Cheryl. I sorta like this one. As the MinXus lexicon states: "Arthur Rimbaud is a fictional character created by Jack Spicer." Now that's pomo!

 

Meta-L - As a foundation I used an old, destroyed, annotated edition of Virgil's "Aeneid" - the epic of the establisment of Rome - right up there with the Illiad and Odyssey.

Comment by Claire (aka Cleo) on May 8, 2012 at 9:10pm

I get that, good intention, of course! It was all the rage when I was in grad school. I suppose my critical slant is more aimed at stylistics. That is, I understand what you're saying, and the point, nonetheless I think that's, A, an individual matter, and, B, one of the time[s]. [I long ago decided that if I let my politics guide my taste, I would engage w/ very little art - especially as I looove "testosterone heavy" music. It's all relative baby! %_^] Nonetheless, revisionism is more than fine by me! I just saw so much hypocrisy in its name. Spoiled rich white kids who had never worked a day in their lives making 'pc' art which they often didn't even vaguely understand. There was no core politic usually, just a vogue - 'twas the thing to do/trendy - no integrity. followed by such a glut of pc images that they simply lost all their potency/[intended] meaning ["until we can no longer see"]. Consuming itself...

Comment by cheryl penn on May 8, 2012 at 9:02pm

De Villo - many, many thanks - once again a great read,  It certainly is a pleasure to be reminded of Arthur Rimbaud again. I think I have letter from him from Africa. Time to look it up again.  I apologize for my absence - its been, um... fraught! But thank you for bearing the textual flag in my absence.  Its greatly appreciated as well I hope you know :-) - I hope I can be excused from the debate you and Cleo are engaged in!!   I had a good look at Meta-L today - a GREAT  piece of work.  Somewhere you said there was a particular text you used - could you remind me please - again - THANK YOU!!! :-) XX

Comment by De Villo Sloan on May 8, 2012 at 8:48pm

Cleo, it's a great pleasure to give you an opportunity to express your views on postmodernism. Multiple perspectives enrich us all.

 

As I mentioned before, I'm really not a huge fan myself of postmodernism or the trainwreck it became. I think many went into it with the best of intentions & probably with a desire to correct some serious flaws in modernism's dna - such as a tendency toward extreme political & cultural fascism . But alas....

Comment by Claire (aka Cleo) on May 8, 2012 at 8:36pm

[I know it exists literally, just haven't seen anything new creatively. "New" is a dangerous word of crs..not to be misconstrued here, I don't believe it has importance. the need of it in the art-world/pop-culture too oft' subsumes the primacy of quality. [Yes, I know that's a po-mo "bad word" - I heard someone once suggest we use "integrity" in its place to subvert the hypocritical charge of 'elitism" supposedly implied by its usage.]]

Comment by Claire (aka Cleo) on May 8, 2012 at 8:06pm

lol! [& I love the quote abt. Amy!] I thought the 2-liner was a great idea... made me think of Williams, that master of brevity...

Comment by De Villo Sloan on May 8, 2012 at 8:00pm

Glad it at least partially meets you're approval, Cleo. I was really concerned. I'll have to write separate versions just for you from now on that take the position that postmodernism never existed. I think a few of us are aware of your position.

 

Yes, there were numerous imagists. I couldn't go into any detail given the space. HD is great, I think. Also Amy Lowell who Pound later in disgust said invented Amygism. Pound's two-liner was exactly what I needed to make the point about minimalism.

 

Thanks for the tip on the CD - I wasn't aware of it & for reading the intro.

Comment by Claire (aka Cleo) on May 8, 2012 at 7:26pm

Really wonderful De Villo! [Can't say I agree w/ the Modernism to post as vispo/concrete is modernist, but be that as it may...&_^]. I love the way you led in w/ those lines of Rimbaud's. And after that, nice intro to modernism/language sensibility and the inception of Vispo. [H.D. is my fave. imagist - I believe I even read of Pound saying she was the master of the genre...?]

In that series I posted some pics from ["pre-Socratic body"] I did a number of bronze cuffs & shackles in which I etched Rimbaud poems. I think its rather astounding how such a young [brief!] visionary still holds such creative sway/influence... [Ah, such sublime fire...!] Have you ever heard Hector Zazou's "Sahara Blue?" Great CD from the early 90s w/ an amazing lineup of guests like Lisa Gerrard [DCD], David Sylvian, Ryuichi Sakamoto, John Cale, etc. Aaaanyway, the lyrics are all Rimbaud poems - Gérard Depardieu even reads!

Comment by De Villo Sloan on May 8, 2012 at 6:01pm

For visual poetry collaborative book (edition #2) contributors: Here is the intro for edition #2. Feel free to cut and paste for your books and/or documentation. You can find both intros here.

http://iuoma-network.ning.com/group/collaborativemailartbooks/forum...

 

Thanks! DVS

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