Received First Ever Hate Mail

[DKeys]

I have no idea what this is in response to. Pretty sure I sent him one of my collages. I love that the "E Hate Mail Art" came with a Love stamp-oh, the irony. This definately had me thinking...

 

[DKeys]

Wow, it all seems so tame in comparison. sounds like BackInTheDay I could have gotten away with mailing actual RK. I think the prisons cook with RK-that or it's a nasty rumor but it wouldn't surprise me. Ernie, no body parts or fluids to send your way, but I'm glad you are open minded and not easily offended if I run across any. It reminds of me of when Judy Chicago came to visit our school and took some tough questions about her work. She ran off the stage crying which was kind of surprising

[De Villo Sloan]

I think DK is becoming a US version of Little Shiva, sort of. The full effect of Trash Baby just hit - oh, I wish I had seen Trash Baby

[De Villo Sloan]

Yip, Manfred Mann, I think. And the pic would have been Stuart Sutcliffe (? too lazy to google), the original bass player. Must be dead bass player day. Terrapins? Wasn't there a pop band called The Turtles vaguely linked to Zappa or something? Now I understand one of the cards you sent better.....

[De Villo Sloan]

thanks for the info and personal memory on klaus voorman, Val. I remember the name from the Lennon albums but that's about it. That has to be a pretty obscure bit of trivia - lucky you 

Little Shiva! I'm a big fan. Trash Baby, Finger Painting on Mars... She does a lot of stuff with Thierry Tellier. She is an IUOMA member and checks in from time to time. This Maastricht event must have been superb.

[Valentine Mark Herman]

On trash... do you guys and gals know Little Shiva aka Trash Baby? I met her at Mail2Maastricht last weekedn where she was doing a one-baby-performance in a dress garnished with recycled plastic bags and wearing some sort of trashed cocoon mask/head-dress. A really weird baby!

Regards, Croque Monsieur

[Valentine Mark Herman]

Klaus Voorman was also a member of Mannfred Mann in the 1960's. I must have met him when the group I roas managed -- Terry and the Terrapins (sic et honest!) -- were on the same bill as the Mann (or Menn?) at a gig in the NE of England. Doo wah diddy diddy.

I used to have a signed Kircher black and white photo of John, George and Stuart in Hamburg standing by an old army truck. I was stupid enough to give it to my sort-of-son-in-law when he got his doctorate. I keep asking for it back, but they won't part with it, alas.

Punk in the UK was initially a simple anti-Establishment and anti musical 'dinosaur' thing -- I can't call it a movement -- when it erupted. The cover of the Pistols' "Never Mind the Bollocks" said it all. Later, much later, it became linked with various sorts of art, but never in the same way that Warhol and his study linked up with the rock'n'roll gods in NY.

Although punk never meant very much to me, I do like the Ramones (even though i failed to find their museum in berlin: have you been there Erni?).

"One, two, let's go"

Croque Monsieur

[De Villo Sloan]

Klaus Voorman? Wasn't he the bass player in the Plastic Ono Band and a Beatle contact from Germany?

[De Villo Sloan]

You're right about the Beatles in Hamburg. But at first I thought you meant the Plastic Ono Band. I read somewhere this very convincing argument that the early Plastic Ono Band concerts in London were incredibly influential on the rise of punk. I think that could be the case. A lot of Plastic Ono Band stuff holds up, I think.

 

Punk seems to have been different things in different places. In the US, it attracted conceptual art types and disaffected working class kids. It never really made it to the great middle class the first time around. So it wasn't all that lucrative for the record companies. That's what I think.

 

But then it was recycled through again with Grunge - you know, Nirvana and Pearl Jam - and that was more successful. 

[Valentine Mark Herman]

Perhaps it's a Fluxus-type statement!

Croque Monsieur

[De Villo Sloan]

Great stuff Erni, I will definitely check out Panic Attack. Burroughs was certainly an icon for that generation. He definitely attracted many of the punkers during the bunker years. Good call on the Sherlock Holmes story - I have a volume and will try to find the story. Don't forget the ear incident with Van Gogh either. Definitely part of the punk performance strategy was enraging and insulting the audience. I never saw the Sex Pistols but I did see John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) with Public Image Ltd. (interestingly - Ginger Baker was the drummer).By that point, spitting on the audience had become a ritual. He had big jugs of water and spit on the audience like some sort of religious ritual - of course they were thrilled to be spat upon.