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Comment by De Villo Sloan on June 28, 2013 at 4:15pm

Cheers Val!

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on June 28, 2013 at 3:46pm

Too close to a weekend to figure this out, DVS. In an hour or so, I'll go find a beer can, empty it, repeat that process a few times, and then see if there's any poetry around. Bon weekend, Val

Comment by De Villo Sloan on June 28, 2013 at 2:53pm

When vispo started moving toward pure image pieces that have the appearance of beings photos or collage, I thought it was a breakthrough. I also thought: "If academics or critics take an interest in this, they are going to rip it to shreds. It would appear to be indefensible."

This is the Richard Canard paradox: Is a flattened beer can a poem?

Strangely, vispo is mainstream. Almost any introductory college literature textbook in the USA now has a section on vispo with work similar to the one above.

Go figure.

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on June 28, 2013 at 2:23pm

Thanks, DVS!

I guess my appreciation of this was restricted by the fact that I couldn't read the words. Now that I know that I'm not supposed to be able to read the words, then it taks on other meanings.

That are still nice!

Comment by De Villo Sloan on June 28, 2013 at 12:57pm

You can see examples of all kinds of vispo in Samuel's group:

http://iuoma-network.ning.com/group/visualpoetrypoesiavisual

Comment by De Villo Sloan on June 28, 2013 at 12:55pm

I think it is meant to be asemic writing. The symbols are so faded and/or overlaid that they are not intelligible.

Val, visual poetry - vispo - does not need to contain language. This is a case where I have not concocted my own arcane theory. Vispo is a widespread practice that does have some basic, shared concepts.

A visual poem, for example, could be a combination of images that capture some sense of the "poetic." The line that comes out of concrete poetry - like this piece - might use language as visual material that can't be read in any conventional sense.

Some of it might seem bizarre, but it's an accepted practice.

Comment by An. U. on June 28, 2013 at 10:02am

I don't know what these chinese heiroglyphs means. Maybe these are poetry.

I have a mailart call "Visual Poetry" and it is submission. Ask to artist.

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on June 28, 2013 at 5:24am

On the 3 of these -- visual, yes: poetry, where?