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Comment by Nancy Bell Scott on July 14, 2011 at 8:12pm

That DVS link is a hoot, and you know, there is a pair of DVS boots in my closet right now.   They've seen better days, and that's why I like them so much.

 

The first image you posted here today, superhero, will take days of study.  Many of your works at IUOMA (including that one today) are so intricate and really are  beautifully done.  They indicate a lively mind in the extreme.  I hope you get to sleep sometimes.

 

Comment by 1cgqtuoblpeqc on July 14, 2011 at 5:20pm

Comment by 1cgqtuoblpeqc on July 14, 2011 at 5:18pm

google: DVS

 

http://www.dvsshoes.com/

Comment by 1cgqtuoblpeqc on July 14, 2011 at 5:16pm

When I saw him on Easton, with two other writing-section clowns, I couldn’t believe how much he looked like that fat homo Oscar Wilde, and I told him so. You look just like him, which was bad news for Oscar, because Melvin said, Oscar Wao, quién es Oscar Wao, and that was it, all of us started calling him that: Hey, Wao, what you doing? Wao, you want to get your feet off my chair?

Comment by 1cgqtuoblpeqc on July 14, 2011 at 5:12pm

Comment by De Villo Sloan on July 14, 2011 at 7:28am

Hmm Nancy, Bard eh? Well, a good liberal arts education exposes you to a lot.

Comment by Nancy Bell Scott on July 14, 2011 at 4:25am

Better connection now, but alas, it seems I have missed an entire semester in 24 hours.   Some brief thoughts etc.:

1.  "liminal space":  a name for something that I see frequently and I'm glad to know it.  (Didn't know the term before, Theresa.)  I love this that you wrote:  "The hazy area . . . is that liminal space; neither here nor there but somehow all that is."

2. The quoted Young translation from the Ninth Elegy is beautiful.  There was only a small amount of time to search for it late last night, but I looked for the same passage in the Spender translation and couldn't come up with it (while in a hurry).  From that and also Mitchell's translation from the ninth sonnet, I'm gathering that Spender was very wordy, and now have an urge to get the Young translation of the elegies and read them anew.  (Have read them many times since my thesis, but always the Spender except for brief glimpses at others.)  I'd miss all the marks and underlines and marginal notes from my extremely well worn Spender translation.  However.

3.  Someone mentioned Faulkner's characterization of Hemingway's writing, and I read that quote recently somewhere.  Thought it was stupid and narrow-minded.

4.  DVS and Theresa discussing Bly's interpretation of Rilke was both interesting and amusing.  I really don't know enough about Bly, in his big picture, to comment, except to say that I try to stay open to radical interpretations, but Rilke as country-western does sound really out there -- maybe even clinically diagnosable!  I had a generally good opinion of Bly in a few important ways until I copyedited his book "The Sibling Society" -- that pretty much soured other impressions.  May be my loss.

5. I copyedited so many short-story anthologies that included Sherwood Anderson that I can't remember an honest opinion.  If I had one, it's long gone.  (Burnout.  Not Anderson's fault.)

6.  Theresa:  If not said before, hearty congratulations on your poem's acceptance for Gargoyle!  Will we get to see this poem sooner rather than later? I'd love to read it.

7.  DVS:  It's time for a bit more revelation, don't you think?  We know Theresa is a university-level teacher and a multi-faceted writer, and that I'm a literature major out of Bard College who had a good freelance editing career that caused significant dents in my once-active literary life -- now permeating my visual art life in subtle, indirect, positive ways.  How is it you've read Rilke and other writers and know translations and so on?  Do you have a secret literary life, or is it something we should already know about you and have somehow missed?

8. Poppies in Rilke was another in a fast-growing list of Rilke associations that I haven't thought about in a long time.  Poppies are my favorite flower.

Goodnight now.

Comment by De Villo Sloan on July 13, 2011 at 10:13pm

Here it is. Hemingway wrote a parody of Sherwood Anderson called "The Torrents of Spring":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Torrents_of_Spring

James Wright, yip, well, I think we'll certainly have some interesting discussions and maybe make some interesting mail-art.

Comment by De Villo Sloan on July 13, 2011 at 9:48pm

Congrats on your acceptance in Gargoyle. The only journal by that name I know - there could be others - is/was based in Washington, DC or that area. 

 

I like Nancy's sketchbook drawing below, a lot. I think Bly also is associated with "Deep Image" verse or something like that? I come across references to that a lot. Probably fair to say Bly comes out of surrealism, more or less, or at least at notable points in his career.

 

Yip, Winesburg is fantastic, IMHO. What was the...? Do you know if Hemingway mocked Sherwood Anderson's style or something somewhere because it was viewed as so simplistic? I think more like: deceptively simplistic.

 

Fun group, anyway.

Comment by De Villo Sloan on July 13, 2011 at 9:17pm

Nancy, I meant to add - I use the Stephen Mitchell for the elegies - it somehow reads smoothly for me. So you like the 9th elegy in particular? I'll have to re-read it. Al Poulin is a little clunky, but I think he had a good understanding of "Sonnets to Orpheus." Yes - Robert Bly - I saw these Rilke translations he did, attempting to put Rilke into Mid-western vernacular. It came out like a country & western song - I really couldn't believe what an atrocity it was. I only mention it because I thought Bly had such a musical ear otherwise. These were in a journal, I think, and maybe an isolated incident.

 

BTW, I am a huge Sherwood Anderson fan - perhaps one of the most original stylists in the English language - maybe that's an overblown opinion, but I share your admiration - I think, not sure, he got stylistic ideas from Gertrude Stein.

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