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Comment by Ian C Dengler on July 26, 2013 at 3:21pm

This is ...straightforward political behaviorism, and maybe the whole point of studying political science. Justice calls are constant from conception, and where to look for the totalitarian tyrant but the baby? However, the communitarian political ethos develops like that of the apprentice, compagnon, and master between 10 and 25. Presumably, that matches the actual growth, maturity pattern for human life expectancy until the recent past. Candidacy is the easy way to see how this works, and is sometimes reflected in legal restrictions on registration, voting, or even holding office.

There's variation in human maturation, as well as opportunism, but the general rule holds: by 28 the human is primed for public decision making, and gets respect.

As for your friend..uh..yes student wannabe somethings would be that category. I almost got married in '68, maybe twice.

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on July 26, 2013 at 2:51pm

One of my best student friends went to Paris in May 68 not for the protests, not to overthrow the French state, not to bring down Western capitalism, but to see how many Mademoiselles he could, er, well yu know what.

He was, so he said, very succesful.

In which category does he fall? (He was 'hopeful')

I think the age of political anger began much earlier -- about 17 in those days, and the Vietnam days too

Comment by Ian C Dengler on July 26, 2013 at 11:56am

Rights begin at birth, disputes also, but there’s a sociology to claims. The youth are poor voting prospects. The age of righteous political anger is around 25-28. And there’s the theater of it all:

20% real students, 20% hopeful “students”, 20% foreign fluff, 20% older/ “committed” to?, and 20% provateur, agent, govt,

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on July 26, 2013 at 4:57am

Bonjour! , too, am of the May '68 generation. I didn't get to protest in Paris, just in London, 'cos my final universioty exams were in late May/early June 68.

"Those were the days, my friend."

I spent 69-70 at Ottawa U (one of the most climatically miserable years of my life) and the Quebec Libre! movement was going strong. de Gaulle supported this, and he was a local folk 'hero' -- well local across theFrench-speaking side of the Ottaw-Quebec river.

de Gaulle remains one of my favourite politicians.

As does Richard M...because he was so bad, that he was almost good.

Comment by Ian C Dengler on July 25, 2013 at 7:09pm

  That's a good story, but typical of much in social life. What about vive de Gaulle? well, I'm one of those Paris '68 guys, up there leading the 13 May march with the flags. We all had red ones except a friend who just had to cut out his own yellow hammer and sickle and staple it on. There were journalists, and of course a few of the Securite who joined along the route to check us out. I have a few 'red banner' stamps in my oeuve.

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on July 25, 2013 at 6:58pm

I once ran  the 20K of Paris, and saw an elderly guy shake hands with his neighbours, kiss his wife goodbye, hug his grandchildren, and join the race (sic) with 2 kms to go. No doubt he was very proud of his Finisher's (ha!) medal, and showed it to one and all.

Vive de Gaulle

Comment by Ian C Dengler on July 25, 2013 at 2:52pm

that's a technical problem for philosophy bloggers (hence, David Chalmers, sponsor of other possible worlds of physics like Ghosts, Putti with tiny wings, and Superman). Then you might consider that 'he' only has to cover the exact frame he's illustrated in. There are fake marathon runners who start off--maybe--but then exit and sneak into the flow near the end. New York has its official marathon at the end of summer when the heat drops, but ghosts are exempt from that sort of physical seasoning as well. It's Big Election at the Big Apple right now, so all sorts of ghosts are surfacing from candidate pasts. How do these fly? On electronic wings, mostly. Perhaps that would explain the 26 mile distance?

And then there are the ghosts that physicists study: anti-matter, reflective light, God of the Big Bang..so the Ghost Finalists in the stamp could be the whole distance of existence in God's measurements.

Comment by Valentine Mark Herman on July 25, 2013 at 2:25pm

He can't fly -- his wings are too small to cover 26 and a bit miles!

Comment by Ian C Dengler on July 25, 2013 at 11:33am

David Chalmers: philosopher of the over-extended mind

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