and seems to be running in my firefox browser. It says it's running in DOSBOX and responds somewhat to its commands. The windows-10 box is not running it according to task manager and I don't see how to save output other than, perhaps, a video capture.
Hi, Jennifer. I'll offer an opinion although I DO NOT consider myself an expert on what is/isn't a cutup.
I believe that cutups get their magic from new associations caused by juxtaposing text snip[pet]s and the example you pose seems to have but one text snip. Although, the blocking of part of that snip by the orange hand might lead to new meanings or associations?
I suppose that one could snip in such a fashion that the removals around the edge could change the meaning of the remainder. One could even snip word[part]s out of the internal body of the snip but that'd be like the crooked redactions we've seen in the news of late.
Someone sent me this link to a new book that is being published of the writings of Brion Gysin & William S. Burroughs on the cut-up technique.
You probably won't find a better understanding of cut-up than going directly to Gysin & Burroughs. Included is an explanation of the difference between cut-up & DaDa methods.
Apparently this new volume includes a new printing of the book The Third Mind (1978) by Gysin & Burroughs, which originally fared very poorly and copies are hard to find. Of course it is now a classic. (Gysin only rarely visited the USA & was not well know in the states until after Burroughs' (final) return.) Anyway, looks like a good book.
Hey, 'DV' thanks for the heads up! I left them a comment asking if one might subscribe to future comments on the book and letting them know I will wish to purchase a copy. YOB-f
a writing machine that shifts one half one text and half the other through a page frame on a conveyor --- the proportion of half one text half another is important corresponding as it does to the two halves of the human organism(shakespear, burroughs etc) permutating through page frames in constantly changing juxtaposition the machine spits out books,plays and poems, the spectators are invited to feed into the machine any pages of their own text in fifty-fifty juxtaposition with any author, any pages of their choice and get provided with results in a few minutes. wsb(ticket)
So, fellow followers of the path of scissoring... I've piled myself out of room for doing trad art so I've been wondering if there's a good way to cut lines from text and reassemble them starting with a digital image rather than paper. [pls pardon me if this offends y'r mailart sensibilities!]
So, I found this prescriptive blather at the internet archive and screenshot a 2-p spread from it [see above] and opened it in corel photopaint where I cd select rows and, surprisingly, I cd drag a row to an open document in corelDRAW. Next, will be the little assembly but what I REALLY WANT TO ASK is if anyone has a better method. This is S-L-O-W.
Ok, trying again, this time from one instance of Corel Photopaint v9 to another. I mention the version because it is old, Old, OLD and the newer ones you may use might not behave the same.
Here's one constructed over a JPG image scanned from a Rita McNamara envelope. Too much stuff over the beautifully asemic image but it shows that one can paste lines over the image in Corel DRAW.
A WRITING machine that shifts one half text and half the other through a page frame on conveyor belts - the proportion of half one text half the other is important corresponding as it does to the 2 halves of the human organism] shakespeare, rimbaud etc, permutating through page frames in constantly changing juxtaposition the machine spits out books and plays and poems - the spectators are invited to feed into the machine any pages of their own text in fifty-fifty juxtaposition with any author of their choice, any pages, and provided with the cut-up results in a few minutes. pg73 ticket that exploded.
Ficus strangulensis
The stickbucket whatever would seem to make product similar to that of
Korenthal Associates DOS program BABBLE
which allows one to mix two to several source texts as well as to apply one or more of several modifications such as accent or ethnicity.
If I weren't too lazy to wrestle with DOSBOX, I'd make some examples.
BTW... beg, beg... can anyone direct me to an easy tutorial for DOSBOX?
Y'r ol' Bud, Fike
Sep 12, 2019
Ficus strangulensis
Hmmmm, or perhaps even "HARUMPF!" BABBLE IS ONLINE
https://archive.org/details/Babble_1020
and seems to be running in my firefox browser. It says it's running in DOSBOX and responds somewhat to its commands. The windows-10 box is not running it according to task manager and I don't see how to save output other than, perhaps, a video capture.
YOB-f
Sep 12, 2019
De Villo Sloan
Sep 12, 2019
De Villo Sloan
Sep 12, 2019
Ficus strangulensis
Ahhhhh! Get it off, get it off. It's eating my brain... mphglhy
Sep 12, 2019
De Villo Sloan
Sep 17, 2019
De Villo Sloan
Cut-up I received from Ficus strangulensis (West Virgina, USA). Thanks Fike!
Sep 22, 2019
carl baker
demonstration---------------
Nov 24, 2019
Ficus strangulensis
Hi, Jennifer. I'll offer an opinion although I DO NOT consider myself an expert on what is/isn't a cutup.
I believe that cutups get their magic from new associations caused by juxtaposing text snip[pet]s and the example you pose seems to have but one text snip. Although, the blocking of part of that snip by the orange hand might lead to new meanings or associations?
I suppose that one could snip in such a fashion that the removals around the edge could change the meaning of the remainder. One could even snip word[part]s out of the internal body of the snip but that'd be like the crooked redactions we've seen in the news of late.
Nov 24, 2019
Ficus strangulensis
Here's a link to what wikipedia 'thinks' cutups are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-up_technique
Nov 24, 2019
Ficus strangulensis
Woopsie! You, sho-nuff got a cutup there fer sure!
Nov 24, 2019
De Villo Sloan
Someone sent me this link to a new book that is being published of the writings of Brion Gysin & William S. Burroughs on the cut-up technique.
You probably won't find a better understanding of cut-up than going directly to Gysin & Burroughs. Included is an explanation of the difference between cut-up & DaDa methods.
Apparently this new volume includes a new printing of the book The Third Mind (1978) by Gysin & Burroughs, which originally fared very poorly and copies are hard to find. Of course it is now a classic. (Gysin only rarely visited the USA & was not well know in the states until after Burroughs' (final) return.) Anyway, looks like a good book.
http://marcusboon.com/the-book-of-methods-selected-writings-on-the-...
Jan 28, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
Hey, 'DV' thanks for the heads up! I left them a comment asking if one might subscribe to future comments on the book and letting them know I will wish to purchase a copy. YOB-f
Jan 28, 2020
John M. Bennett
I wonder if this new ed. of The Third Mind, etc. would include color plates of all the visual material that didn't make it into the original edition?
Jan 28, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
John, There's a place to leave the author questions/comments at the link DVS posted.
Jan 28, 2020
John M. Bennett
I've just learned that there's a very good chance the visual will be in color, but time will tell for sure
Jan 28, 2020
carl baker
CUT UP, the burroughs postcard.
Feb 16, 2020
HilgART
Cool cut-up, Jennifer--and what a great collection of works to be a part of!! Congratulations!
Apr 24, 2020
carl baker
a writing machine that shifts one half one text and half the other through a page frame on a conveyor --- the proportion of half one text half another is important corresponding as it does to the two halves of the human organism(shakespear, burroughs etc) permutating through page frames in constantly changing juxtaposition the machine spits out books,plays and poems, the spectators are invited to feed into the machine any pages of their own text in fifty-fifty juxtaposition with any author, any pages of their choice and get provided with results in a few minutes. wsb(ticket)
May 2, 2020
carl baker
multi media cut up............
https://experimentsinopera.com/portfolio-item/the-travel-agency-is-...
May 9, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
So, fellow followers of the path of scissoring... I've piled myself out of room for doing trad art so I've been wondering if there's a good way to cut lines from text and reassemble them starting with a digital image rather than paper. [pls pardon me if this offends y'r mailart sensibilities!]
So, I found this prescriptive blather at the internet archive and screenshot a 2-p spread from it [see above] and opened it in corel photopaint where I cd select rows and, surprisingly, I cd drag a row to an open document in corelDRAW. Next, will be the little assembly but what I REALLY WANT TO ASK is if anyone has a better method. This is S-L-O-W.
Sep 13, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
Here's the 'little assembly' a first stab at a cutup from the 2-page spread.
looks like even this sparse collection of sentence fragments cd be assembled differently to make what I think of as a cutup.
But, again, what I really seek is someone's better method than my digital cut and past from one windows-10 app to another.
Sep 13, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
Ok, trying again, this time from one instance of Corel Photopaint v9 to another. I mention the version because it is old, Old, OLD and the newer ones you may use might not behave the same.
Sep 13, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
I should've been more forthcoming about what I want from a digital cutup method.
1) allow me to put text lines onto a pre-existing ['stolen'] image.
2) allow repositioning after first importing lines of text.
3) would be nice if it allowed one to open large texts as sources of lines.
4) similarly, open multiple texts as line sources.
Sep 13, 2020
John M. Bennett
Ficus, these are great texts you made, hiwver you did it (which I coukdn't follow well, being a computer idiot)
i always used scissors and glue, tried and true
or else just write in a way that appears to be cutup, which is probably is, the cutting up happening in my deprogrammed brain
Sep 13, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
here's another, this time using GIMP as the pot full of "wisdom" where bits selected are dipped up and put into a window of Corel DRAW v9
Sep 13, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
Here's one constructed over a JPG image scanned from a Rita McNamara envelope. Too much stuff over the beautifully asemic image but it shows that one can paste lines over the image in Corel DRAW.
Sep 13, 2020
Ficus strangulensis
another cutup: source text 'held' in Corel Photopaint, target assembled in Corel DRAW, then exported as a JPG. READ AND OBEY!
Sep 16, 2020
De Villo Sloan
Oct 24, 2020
De Villo Sloan
The magic of cut-up:
"Tennyson" appears in the cut-up by Ficus on 9.16 then in mine (right above Ficus) on 10.23. Complete coincidence.
Oct 24, 2020
carl baker
A WRITING machine that shifts one half text and half the other through a page frame on conveyor belts - the proportion of half one text half the other is important corresponding as it does to the 2 halves of the human organism] shakespeare, rimbaud etc, permutating through page frames in constantly changing juxtaposition the machine spits out books and plays and poems - the spectators are invited to feed into the machine any pages of their own text in fifty-fifty juxtaposition with any author of their choice, any pages, and provided with the cut-up results in a few minutes. pg73 ticket that exploded.
Jul 19, 2021
John M. Bennett
That writing machine has always been a favorite little passage of mine; I can just see it, sorta clunky and creaking, jerking along....
Jul 20, 2021
carl baker
john,maybe its a clarke-nova
Jul 20, 2021
Ficus strangulensis
an OLD fike cutup collaboratively finished by someone else[?] including a border of dill seed [I tasted one]
Oct 2, 2021
John M. Bennett
nice one Ficus - and i suspect that title "hollow phone" was cut out of a poem on mine - works good here
Oct 2, 2021
carl baker
balch..........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_hztHJCM4&t=14s
Oct 24, 2021
Andrew Encisco
a page from my art journal ...
Jan 30, 2022
Andrew Encisco
a fish illustration I made from a clothing catalog...
Jan 30, 2022
Andrew Encisco
a fish illustration from a clothing catalog...
Jan 30, 2022
Andrew Encisco
a fish illustration from a clothing catalog...
Jan 30, 2022
carl baker
method++++++++++
Feb 10, 2022
John M. Bennett
Feb 10, 2022
carl baker
poster>>>>>>>>
Sep 25, 2022
carl baker
mark,yes for sure.
Sep 25, 2022
nonlocal variable
Feb 16, 2023
nonlocal variable
A little modification of a story...
Feb 16, 2023
nonlocal variable
streamofconsciousnesscutup.
Feb 23, 2023
carl baker
wsb explains>>>>>>>
https://twitter.com/i/status/1635441074746392577
Mar 14, 2023
John M. Bennett
Mar 14, 2023
carl baker
thanks john, great!
Mar 14, 2023