Nancy, Welcome! De Villo has a great eye for spotting Asemics. I looked at your 3 piece collage photos. Love the simplicity of them. It's always a challenge to me to pare down anything and I really admire people that can.
Answering Svetlana's earlier question: Asemics 16 is not being shown in Rome, to my knowledge. Cheryl and I coordinated another book here at the IUOMA before this. It was called Project 26. It was based on letters of the alphabet. It had visual poetry, collage, all sorts of things. Alfonso Filieri put it on exhibit in Rome. He is an outstanding book artist. He is participating in Asemics 16 too. So I was talking about something else.
Svetlana, just so I don't clog up the stream further - the Asemics 16 concept is posted in various parts of the thread. I'll answer any specific questions you have.
These books will go on exhibition in South Africa next year as DVS knows - so, we are looking forward to completion of this project. DVS is right - Project 26 was on exhibition in Rome - and it due to be exhibited in Argentina at the end of the year (Rosa Gravino). Here's to hoping Monday is a full on Asemics Receipt Day. Hope you're all having a FAB Sunday!
Thanks Cheryl, participants, of course, can do anything they want with their books. With Project 26, editions have found their way into exhibits, blog posts, who knows... And - I'll write an introduction - as I did for Project 26 - that explains the concept etc. etc. I especially want to write the intro in response to the asemic Correctness that has reared its little pit bull head. That should help.
Wouldn't miss it. And I do mean this seriously - I think some of Superhero's various mini-manifestos about asemic writing are better than the iron fist of the Asemically Correct. The Asemically Correct, BTW, are not here with us on this little island of freedom. Freedom does require constant vigilance.
What or who is the asemically correct? If you could describe it briefly. Being new at this (and in love), I'm trying to educate myself (also briefly, in the hope of avoiding learning asemic correctness).
SH, the posts are appreciated. You're finding some interesting stuff. And you do have to manage your vast network of projects. One of them was turning into a regular crack house.
Thank you for your adoration of me and my projects, Victoria. I am pleased you are involved. I like to occasionally acknowledge all the "little people" who work tirelessly behind the scenes to make all this possible.
DVS, friendly warning: I am sending you my first conscious asemic piece today, started a few days ago and finished last night.
Last night I also had a blast completing some black and white works started a couple of years ago. They've been searching for completion and a purpose, and Sharon Silverman's Black & White Project is the perfect destination, I hope. They were completed with ... asemic writing.
Superhero, your asemic history is rather spotty, I see, but you sound hungry for it, so you too will receive a piece. It doesn't include zombies (sorry -- guess they worry me too much, they are all over my town), but it does include a "spirit," not the religious kind but a kind I end up doing often, which is foggy and represents every individual spirit in our realm, including spirits involved in trees and also non-living objects that I consider creatures nevertheless. Ok?
Yes, Sharon Silverman's black & white project is so cool! I'm a fan already.
Nancy Scott Bell - I'm looking forward to seeing how you are approaching this. I just hope everyone can get past thinking asemic writing is some scary thing to approach. A few basic concepts is all, and even then, kids do it with crayons everyday without even concepts.
Superhero does have a very interesting position on asemic writing. He posted it somewhere around here. I've certainly thought about what he wrote a great deal.
Superhero has "a position" on asemic writing? I've got to see it and will search around for it.
It is slightly scary to take a first step, DVS, but not in the usual sense. I mean, asemic writing was showing up at times in my art long ago, so this first piece wasn't like jumping off a cliff. But never having really focused on it, I'm already seeing that because I love it I will probably do it a lot, and so it's already evolving somewhat even in these early days. For you to have the very first of it is humbling and yes, a little scary (though not as scary as zombies). You know, maybe the B&W ones done later in the night are more effective or something, I have no idea, so that's the scary part. But not a big deal. Of course, writing this much about it in this comment puts the lie to any bravery trying to show itself here! Slap. Onward ...
Nancy, you raise so many interesting ideas... I want to eventually do a rant on asemic writing and the automatic writing of the surrealists. Like speaking in tongues, there's probably a whole visionary aspect of this we haven't explored.
Yes, some people have "positions." For several months, this group has been a been a tremendous learning experience. We have veterans like John Bennett and Cecil Touchon who have done their best to share their work and knowledge. Most of us, however, are learning. There were two incidents on these threads that might be fairly called rankerous.
(1) The Trashpo War - Cheryl and I never considered found art had any role whatsoever in asemic writing, just clueless. John Bennett showed some fascinating pieces made of plywood on asphalt - man, that was an eye opener. And some of the trashpo people started posting things they found in the street and asking if it was asemic writing. Well, all that opened minds. And, you know, we have DK here who have really moved Trashpo forward, so I was going to take it all very seriously.
(2) Mutiny of the Asemically Correct: Then we did have that thing where people were coming down hard on other people, saying the work wasn't asemic, saying the whole project wasn't really asemic, just not what I personally believed was in the spirit of mail-art. It was a few, but there's the one bad apple theory, right?Because, ultimately, this is mail-art and not a graduate seminar. I'm into commentary that is descriptive, not prescriptive. This morphed over into claims of cultural elitism and Dark wall's creation of A.C.E. - Academy of Cultural Elitists elsewhere. Somewhere in there Superhero did post at least one of his asemic positions. As I understand, it asemic writing is entirely subjective - according to what I think he wrote. Makes you think, anyway. So at one point I actually shut the group down until we could get past the back-biting. Things seem to be back on track now. In favor of total disclosure, that's what happened. You know, this deletist/expulsion thing, it's something that never should be resorted too. But collaboration requires some degree of compromise or at least mutual acceptance.
I think a loose consensus has been reached in the group and we're moving forward. What really matters - the art being created - who could deny folks here are doing SPECTACULAR things. More than you wanted know, that's what you get from me.
And - to get past this whole thing - Superhero deserves vindication because he was a victim of Asemic Correctness, not an instigator. Some purists have a problem when visual poetry and asemic writing become too friendly, apparently. This is probably my ignorance not understanding. I proclaim again: I'm learning too.
Yip, Superhero is our Alex from "A Clockwork Orange" - the poster child proclaiming our openness and acceptance
Jul 12, 2011
my viewpoint is that asemics is a state of mind, an internal state, not an external one.
the art is inside you, and it is all perspective. something can be completely "meaningful" to one person, yet totally aesthetic to someone else, all depending on context of the viewer.
that's my view in a nutshell.
DVS has a work concerning this on its way to him.
i think the work explains it well by tying asemics to quantum physics.
just like there is classic physics, which explains the "normal," "macro" world-view, we have classic art; art that is easily understood and comprehended because it follows the rules of past generations. but the entire world view has shifted in light of major technological and social reforms over the past 100 years or so, and we need new rules just like physics needs new laws. we have to change our perspectives of art, and how we view it.
Great foil beanies SH.
Asemics are that they are.
SH flies in and out because he refuses to be contained--not to asemics or anything else!
Jul 12, 2011
diane, that piece was my #3 and went to clouded, who has kind of dropped out of MA for the most part (sadly). she sent a few rat drawings near the start of summer break, but i haven't heard much from her since. she also submitted a digital work when i started working on digitals myself.
hi prettylily, zombipedia pages heading your way.
DVS: never thought of myself as much of a poster child. not until Val started SMARTSIS at least.
It is not more than I want to know, DVS, though a lot to take in, so I'm still absorbing your and superhero's excellent descriptive comments. It's all fascinating, and those rancorous episodes probably couldn't be avoided because of the mix of the "meaningful" and the "aesthetic," as superhero aptly termed text content and visual.
Let me say for now that, although new, I like and agree with the asemic (and life) philosophy/outlook/approach you both describe so well.
Also, in case my teasing remark about superhero's asemic group participation sounding "spotty" was taken seriously, I in no way meant it as a slam. It was just in fun because of your own teasing exchange earlier today about flying in and out, but since the rancor was recent I probably shouldn't chance that stuff now -- I wouldn't know if something pushes a sore button, so I'm sorry about that.
Thanks for everything here, including today's great explanations.
the animals / insects are really cool looking!
Jul 10, 2011
prettylily
Nancy, Welcome! De Villo has a great eye for spotting Asemics. I looked at your 3 piece collage photos. Love the simplicity of them. It's always a challenge to me to pare down anything and I really admire people that can.
Jul 10, 2011
prettylily
Can't wait to get to the PO tomorrow. I'm hoping for more chapters of the #2 book.
So many different approaches. This has been a great experience!
Jul 10, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Answering Svetlana's earlier question: Asemics 16 is not being shown in Rome, to my knowledge. Cheryl and I coordinated another book here at the IUOMA before this. It was called Project 26. It was based on letters of the alphabet. It had visual poetry, collage, all sorts of things. Alfonso Filieri put it on exhibit in Rome. He is an outstanding book artist. He is participating in Asemics 16 too. So I was talking about something else.
Svetlana, just so I don't clog up the stream further - the Asemics 16 concept is posted in various parts of the thread. I'll answer any specific questions you have.
Jul 10, 2011
cheryl penn
These books will go on exhibition in South Africa next year as DVS knows - so, we are looking forward to completion of this project. DVS is right - Project 26 was on exhibition in Rome - and it due to be exhibited in Argentina at the end of the year (Rosa Gravino). Here's to hoping Monday is a full on Asemics Receipt Day. Hope you're all having a FAB Sunday!
:-) X
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 10, 2011
cheryl penn
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 10, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
Jul 10, 2011
Cecil Touchon
For Asemic activity please follow these simple rules...
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Jul 10, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 10, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 10, 2011
cheryl penn
Jul 10, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 10, 2011
MaryAnne
The first of mine went out last week.
Jul 11, 2011
cheryl penn
Jul 11, 2011
Victoria Barvenko
Jul 11, 2011
cheryl penn
Jul 11, 2011
Victoria Barvenko
Jul 11, 2011
Mim Golub Scalin
Jul 11, 2011
anonymous asemic mao
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
Jul 12, 2011
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
oh, i'm not like that.
i follow it even when i'm not active member.
i just need to re-join to post the great asemics i get! ;-)
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
Heather Miller
Jul 12, 2011
Victoria Barvenko
Jul 12, 2011
you can make one to send me heather.
i'll love it, promise!
Jul 12, 2011
Victoria Barvenko
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
DVS, friendly warning: I am sending you my first conscious asemic piece today, started a few days ago and finished last night.
Last night I also had a blast completing some black and white works started a couple of years ago. They've been searching for completion and a purpose, and Sharon Silverman's Black & White Project is the perfect destination, I hope. They were completed with ... asemic writing.
Superhero, your asemic history is rather spotty, I see, but you sound hungry for it, so you too will receive a piece. It doesn't include zombies (sorry -- guess they worry me too much, they are all over my town), but it does include a "spirit," not the religious kind but a kind I end up doing often, which is foggy and represents every individual spirit in our realm, including spirits involved in trees and also non-living objects that I consider creatures nevertheless. Ok?
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Yes, Sharon Silverman's black & white project is so cool! I'm a fan already.
Nancy Scott Bell - I'm looking forward to seeing how you are approaching this. I just hope everyone can get past thinking asemic writing is some scary thing to approach. A few basic concepts is all, and even then, kids do it with crayons everyday without even concepts.
Superhero does have a very interesting position on asemic writing. He posted it somewhere around here. I've certainly thought about what he wrote a great deal.
Jul 12, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
Superhero has "a position" on asemic writing? I've got to see it and will search around for it.
It is slightly scary to take a first step, DVS, but not in the usual sense. I mean, asemic writing was showing up at times in my art long ago, so this first piece wasn't like jumping off a cliff. But never having really focused on it, I'm already seeing that because I love it I will probably do it a lot, and so it's already evolving somewhat even in these early days. For you to have the very first of it is humbling and yes, a little scary (though not as scary as zombies). You know, maybe the B&W ones done later in the night are more effective or something, I have no idea, so that's the scary part. But not a big deal. Of course, writing this much about it in this comment puts the lie to any bravery trying to show itself here! Slap. Onward ...
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Nancy, you raise so many interesting ideas... I want to eventually do a rant on asemic writing and the automatic writing of the surrealists. Like speaking in tongues, there's probably a whole visionary aspect of this we haven't explored.
Yes, some people have "positions." For several months, this group has been a been a tremendous learning experience. We have veterans like John Bennett and Cecil Touchon who have done their best to share their work and knowledge. Most of us, however, are learning. There were two incidents on these threads that might be fairly called rankerous.
(1) The Trashpo War - Cheryl and I never considered found art had any role whatsoever in asemic writing, just clueless. John Bennett showed some fascinating pieces made of plywood on asphalt - man, that was an eye opener. And some of the trashpo people started posting things they found in the street and asking if it was asemic writing. Well, all that opened minds. And, you know, we have DK here who have really moved Trashpo forward, so I was going to take it all very seriously.
(2) Mutiny of the Asemically Correct: Then we did have that thing where people were coming down hard on other people, saying the work wasn't asemic, saying the whole project wasn't really asemic, just not what I personally believed was in the spirit of mail-art. It was a few, but there's the one bad apple theory, right?Because, ultimately, this is mail-art and not a graduate seminar. I'm into commentary that is descriptive, not prescriptive. This morphed over into claims of cultural elitism and Dark wall's creation of A.C.E. - Academy of Cultural Elitists elsewhere. Somewhere in there Superhero did post at least one of his asemic positions. As I understand, it asemic writing is entirely subjective - according to what I think he wrote. Makes you think, anyway. So at one point I actually shut the group down until we could get past the back-biting. Things seem to be back on track now. In favor of total disclosure, that's what happened. You know, this deletist/expulsion thing, it's something that never should be resorted too. But collaboration requires some degree of compromise or at least mutual acceptance.
I think a loose consensus has been reached in the group and we're moving forward. What really matters - the art being created - who could deny folks here are doing SPECTACULAR things. More than you wanted know, that's what you get from me.
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
digital asemic writing:
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0
0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 0 1 1 1 0 0 0
Jul 12, 2011
De Villo Sloan
Jul 12, 2011
my viewpoint is that asemics is a state of mind, an internal state, not an external one.
the art is inside you, and it is all perspective. something can be completely "meaningful" to one person, yet totally aesthetic to someone else, all depending on context of the viewer.
that's my view in a nutshell.
DVS has a work concerning this on its way to him.
i think the work explains it well by tying asemics to quantum physics.
just like there is classic physics, which explains the "normal," "macro" world-view, we have classic art; art that is easily understood and comprehended because it follows the rules of past generations. but the entire world view has shifted in light of major technological and social reforms over the past 100 years or so, and we need new rules just like physics needs new laws. we have to change our perspectives of art, and how we view it.
asemics, and art in general is quite relative.
and even further than art and physics,
life itself is completely subjective.
Jul 12, 2011
prettylily
Welcome back, Superhero!
Jul 12, 2011
DKeys
Asemics are that they are.
SH flies in and out because he refuses to be contained--not to asemics or anything else!
Jul 12, 2011
diane, that piece was my #3 and went to clouded, who has kind of dropped out of MA for the most part (sadly). she sent a few rat drawings near the start of summer break, but i haven't heard much from her since. she also submitted a digital work when i started working on digitals myself.
hi prettylily, zombipedia pages heading your way.
DVS: never thought of myself as much of a poster child. not until Val started SMARTSIS at least.
Jul 12, 2011
Nancy Bell Scott
It is not more than I want to know, DVS, though a lot to take in, so I'm still absorbing your and superhero's excellent descriptive comments. It's all fascinating, and those rancorous episodes probably couldn't be avoided because of the mix of the "meaningful" and the "aesthetic," as superhero aptly termed text content and visual.
Let me say for now that, although new, I like and agree with the asemic (and life) philosophy/outlook/approach you both describe so well.
Also, in case my teasing remark about superhero's asemic group participation sounding "spotty" was taken seriously, I in no way meant it as a slam. It was just in fun because of your own teasing exchange earlier today about flying in and out, but since the rancor was recent I probably shouldn't chance that stuff now -- I wouldn't know if something pushes a sore button, so I'm sorry about that.
Thanks for everything here, including today's great explanations.
Jul 12, 2011
DKeys
Jul 12, 2011