I get that, good intention, of course! It was all the rage when I was in grad school. I suppose my critical slant is more aimed at stylistics. That is, I understand what you're saying, and the point, nonetheless I think that's, A, an individual matter, and, B, one of the time[s]. [I long ago decided that if I let my politics guide my taste, I would engage w/ very little art - especially as I looove "testosterone heavy" music. It's all relative baby! %_^] Nonetheless, revisionism is more than fine by me! I just saw so much hypocrisy in its name. Spoiled rich white kids who had never worked a day in their lives making 'pc' art which they often didn't even vaguely understand. There was no core politic usually, just a vogue - 'twas the thing to do/trendy - no integrity. followed by such a glut of pc images that they simply lost all their potency/[intended] meaning ["until we can no longer see"]. Consuming itself...
Thanks, Cheryl. I sorta like this one. As the MinXus lexicon states: "Arthur Rimbaud is a fictional character created by Jack Spicer." Now that's pomo!
Meta-L - As a foundation I used an old, destroyed, annotated edition of Virgil's "Aeneid" - the epic of the establisment of Rome - right up there with the Illiad and Odyssey.
Cleo, I see some of the disconnect is that I'm thinking of pomo lit & theory & you are factoring in pomo art. Geez, what I've seen of pomo art. Personally, I think that was a bust, short-lived.
Thank you :-) - I confess to looking Ourang-Outang while writing the blog (for tomorrow)... Hey Cleo - Meta-L is a fine piece of work I received from De Villo for my book collection which will be exhibited in October. I will be posting the blog tomorrow - so please take a look - sounds like its work right up your street :-) X
Thanks, edition #2 is one of my all-time favs. Rosa Gravino's chapter arrived a few days ago & is over the top. I'm still not done blogging chapters.
Cleo, pomo stretched across four goddamned decades, if you trace. For me, it became "The Thing That Wouldn't Die." It became totally the realm of critics & theorists. Certainly it was trendy at several different stages - but the worst - and I think I remember the era you're talking about - was when the theories were so impossibly incomprehensible that the students it was being foisted upon had no real idea what it was about, most of their professors even less, but people felt like they had to jump on the bandwagon because it must be cool. I think it maybe really is gone now & it's safe to go back in the water. However, the clean-up that toxic spill will take a long time. The people who started it never had any intention that it would become what it became and many them ended up its most badly maimed victims. But that's true of most things.
Hi TIC TAC, I'm glad the intro. works for you. Your use of (relative) minimalism in the chapter triggered some very serious meditation on my part. You are part of "The Great Tradition" of poetry indeed, among your other talents. Thank you again for your wonderful chapter!
Greetings collab book members. Some of you might remember or participated in the Project 26 collab book. I've blogged a "Lost Classic" from that project - Litsa Spathi's "O" chapter - great vispo & some further documentation:
Bizarre Cities volume 8, Urban Travel Book is in the process of being diffused.
Artist book edition of 25 with contributions by Bernd Reichert, Teresa Reichert, Lotte, Theresa Williams, Kerri Pullo, David Stone, Connie Tettenborn, Cheryl Penn, Lesley Magwood Fraser, Mikula Lullwitz, Private World, Andrew Niss, Guido Vermeulen, Carlos Zurck Cruz, Hans Braumuller, Keith Buchholz, John Bennett, Juri Gik, Walter Bachmann, Matt Taggart, Guido Bondioli
BLACKBIRD issue 10 (editor: David Stone, USA) is in the process of being diffused, amazing collection of poetry and visual poetry by 56 mail artists and networkers; cover art from Denis Saleh (USA)
The eight issues of the collaborative art magazine “Bizarre Cities” which appeared so far since 2000 are now also visible in electronic form. Enjoy. They can be seen and downloaded from this blog.
OK I have started my Zine thingy but am confused with what books I am meant to be doing.... and of course Cheryl the old "concept" is rearing its head, never mind I will find one I am sure. It always comes after the act! Recycling artworks ready to work onto...
Zine font pages from (left) Christine Tarrantino (USA) and TIC TAC (Germany) - this is a beauty - one cant see the layers and the use of acetate - but contributors soon will :-) X
wow! Beautiful pages for the zine, Cheryl! I am putting boekie "Library" on the back burner, and will work on the zine pages this weekend. Let's see 27 pages for Zine#1, back and front= 54. And 27 pages for Zine #2, back and front = 54.Right, that's 108 pages :-0
BEAUTIFUL new pages received from Lesley Magwood Fraser (South Africa), Cuan Miles (South Africa) and Marie Wintzer (Japan). AND contribution to Zine 2 from Guido Vermeulen. I've been clearing out my book studio because I've lost a camera chord. 4 hours later, still no luck... As soon as I'm back in the photographic business I'll show some images. :-) X
From Lesley Magwood Fraser (South aFrica) and Svenja Wahl (Germany) - each one of these pages is different - phew - A LOT of work!! Many many thanks :-) X
Zine pages from Katerina Nikoltsou (Greece) (Issue 1 and 2), Stephanie Turnbull (UK) and Prof Roberto Scala (Italy) - many thanks - images on the morrow :-) X
Volume 2 contributions - from TICTAC (Germany) and Tizianna Baracchi (Italy). Please note - Zine 1 is full and Zine 2 is NEARLY full!! If you would like to participate in THREE Zines, send more work! And thank you - to artists like TICTAC and Tizianna, Guido and Rolan Halbritter who have sent for both :-) XX
HI Cheryl, I'm confused. Are we sending two or four images? I have one maybe two and ma struggling with three and four? I will definately be sending in but HELP life is just too needy at the moment!
Rebecca - 27 pages, double sided. Some people have sent different images, some people have photocopied the same image - up to you - LIFE!!! Yip, know that one... X
Claire (aka Cleo)
I get that, good intention, of course! It was all the rage when I was in grad school. I suppose my critical slant is more aimed at stylistics. That is, I understand what you're saying, and the point, nonetheless I think that's, A, an individual matter, and, B, one of the time[s]. [I long ago decided that if I let my politics guide my taste, I would engage w/ very little art - especially as I looove "testosterone heavy" music. It's all relative baby! %_^] Nonetheless, revisionism is more than fine by me! I just saw so much hypocrisy in its name. Spoiled rich white kids who had never worked a day in their lives making 'pc' art which they often didn't even vaguely understand. There was no core politic usually, just a vogue - 'twas the thing to do/trendy - no integrity. followed by such a glut of pc images that they simply lost all their potency/[intended] meaning ["until we can no longer see"]. Consuming itself...
May 8, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Thanks, Cheryl. I sorta like this one. As the MinXus lexicon states: "Arthur Rimbaud is a fictional character created by Jack Spicer." Now that's pomo!
Meta-L - As a foundation I used an old, destroyed, annotated edition of Virgil's "Aeneid" - the epic of the establisment of Rome - right up there with the Illiad and Odyssey.
May 8, 2012
Claire (aka Cleo)
It truly is fine indeed De Villo!
Wait! What is "Meta-L?" I missed that...
May 8, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Cleo, I see some of the disconnect is that I'm thinking of pomo lit & theory & you are factoring in pomo art. Geez, what I've seen of pomo art. Personally, I think that was a bust, short-lived.
May 8, 2012
cheryl penn
Thank you :-) - I confess to looking Ourang-Outang while writing the blog (for tomorrow)... Hey Cleo - Meta-L is a fine piece of work I received from De Villo for my book collection which will be exhibited in October. I will be posting the blog tomorrow - so please take a look - sounds like its work right up your street :-) X
May 8, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Meta L = metalanguage, which probably is a real differnces between pomos & mods.
There is a kind of Cargo Cult in Africa that thingk Rimbaud is still alive - that's in the lexicon too. He sends people letters now and then.
May 8, 2012
Claire (aka Cleo)
Thanks for the heads Cheryl - keep us posted!
May 8, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Spell chick needs her insulin.
May 8, 2012
De Villo Sloan
"Piece of work"
May 8, 2012
John M. Bennett
Thanks for the intro, De Villo! most useful -
onword
john
May 9, 2012
Nancy Bell Scott
DVS, thank you very much for the vispo2 intro! Well done and thought-provoking as usual ~
May 9, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Thanks, edition #2 is one of my all-time favs. Rosa Gravino's chapter arrived a few days ago & is over the top. I'm still not done blogging chapters.
Cleo, pomo stretched across four goddamned decades, if you trace. For me, it became "The Thing That Wouldn't Die." It became totally the realm of critics & theorists. Certainly it was trendy at several different stages - but the worst - and I think I remember the era you're talking about - was when the theories were so impossibly incomprehensible that the students it was being foisted upon had no real idea what it was about, most of their professors even less, but people felt like they had to jump on the bandwagon because it must be cool. I think it maybe really is gone now & it's safe to go back in the water. However, the clean-up that toxic spill will take a long time. The people who started it never had any intention that it would become what it became and many them ended up its most badly maimed victims. But that's true of most things.
May 9, 2012
Ptrzia (TICTAC)
many thanks DeVillo for the great introduction, very focused as usual.
May 9, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Hi TIC TAC, I'm glad the intro. works for you. Your use of (relative) minimalism in the chapter triggered some very serious meditation on my part. You are part of "The Great Tradition" of poetry indeed, among your other talents. Thank you again for your wonderful chapter!
May 9, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Greetings collab book members. Some of you might remember or participated in the Project 26 collab book. I've blogged a "Lost Classic" from that project - Litsa Spathi's "O" chapter - great vispo & some further documentation:
http://iuoma-network.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-fluxus-beat-litsa-...
May 13, 2012
Guido Vermeulen
Bizarre Cities volume 8, Urban Travel Book is in the process of being diffused.
Artist book edition of 25 with contributions by Bernd Reichert, Teresa Reichert, Lotte, Theresa Williams, Kerri Pullo, David Stone, Connie Tettenborn, Cheryl Penn, Lesley Magwood Fraser, Mikula Lullwitz, Private World, Andrew Niss, Guido Vermeulen, Carlos Zurck Cruz, Hans Braumuller, Keith Buchholz, John Bennett, Juri Gik, Walter Bachmann, Matt Taggart, Guido Bondioli
May 15, 2012
De Villo Sloan
Hello visual poets, I have documented three more chapters from the vispo book project.
http://iuoma-network.ning.com/profiles/blogs/visual-poetry-antholog...
May 23, 2012
Guido Vermeulen
BLACKBIRD issue 10 (editor: David Stone, USA) is in the process of being diffused, amazing collection of poetry and visual poetry by 56 mail artists and networkers; cover art from Denis Saleh (USA)
May 25, 2012
cheryl penn
I was hunting for De Villo's introduction to Vispo Book 2 - it is now in DVS's Introduction discussion for easy reference :-)X
Jun 4, 2012
cheryl penn
This is a FINAL appeal to the good 'something' of the artists who have not yet sent their contributions in for the VISPO Books. PLEASE!!!
Jun 4, 2012
Guido Vermeulen
Message from Bernd Reichert:
The eight issues of the collaborative art magazine “Bizarre Cities” which appeared so far since 2000 are now also visible in electronic form. Enjoy. They can be seen and downloaded from this blog.
Best regards, Mailworks@Bruxelles.
Jun 10, 2012
cheryl penn
I will leave this message in the Zine discussion too - but GREAT pages are starting to arrived for the Zine. So far:
1 RCBz – USA
2 Roland Halbritter - GERMANY
3 Vittore Baroni - ITALY
4 Giovanni and Renata StraDA DA - ITALY
5 John M Bennett - USA
6 EGO-TEK - ITALY
7 David Dellafiora (Field Study - AUSTRALIA
8 Bruno Cassaglia - ITALY
9 Claudio Romeo - ITALY
10 Cheryl Penn - South Africa
11 Tiziana Baracchi - ITALY
Jun 19, 2012
cheryl penn
More Zine pages have arrived:
TICTAC (Germany)
Christine Tarantino (USA)
Roberto Keppler (Brazil)
Jun 20, 2012
Lesley Magwood Fraser
Any pics to show us for inspiration Cheryl? I am up against a brick wall when it comes to ideas... :(
Jun 20, 2012
cheryl penn
For Sure Les :-)- hurry up!! I need another Seffican on board!! Sue's also at the drawing board...
RCBz (USA) and Roland Halbritter (Germany)
Jun 20, 2012
cheryl penn
Vittore Baroni - ITALY and Giovanni and Renata StraDA DA - ITALY
Jun 20, 2012
cheryl penn
John M Bennett - USA and EGO-TEK - ITALY
Jun 20, 2012
cheryl penn
David Dellafiora (Field Study - AUSTRALIA and Bruno Cassaglia – ITALY
Jun 20, 2012
cheryl penn
o - please make sure both sides are done :-) X
Jun 20, 2012
Lesley Magwood Fraser
OK I have started my Zine thingy but am confused with what books I am meant to be doing.... and of course Cheryl the old "concept" is rearing its head, never mind I will find one I am sure. It always comes after the act! Recycling artworks ready to work onto...
Jun 20, 2012
cheryl penn
Zine font pages from (left) Christine Tarrantino (USA) and TIC TAC (Germany) - this is a beauty - one cant see the layers and the use of acetate - but contributors soon will :-) X
Jun 22, 2012
cheryl penn
From Roberto Keppler (Brazil) and Tiziana Baracchi (Italy)
Jun 22, 2012
Katerina Nikoltsou (MomKat)
wow! Beautiful pages for the zine, Cheryl! I am putting boekie "Library" on the back burner, and will work on the zine pages this weekend. Let's see 27 pages for Zine#1, back and front= 54. And 27 pages for Zine #2, back and front = 54.Right, that's 108 pages :-0
working..working...working...
Jun 22, 2012
cheryl penn
WOW! We're obviously a chatty bunch :-) - welcome to the new members X
Jun 24, 2012
cheryl penn
Zine pages from Guido Vermeulen (double dream spread :-) (Belgium) and Archives - Fulgor c Silvi (Italy) (each hand-painted)
Jun 26, 2012
Ptrzia (TICTAC)
those zines are going to be awesome! :-)
Jun 26, 2012
cheryl penn
TICTAC, thank you -for sure - it IS looking good :-)!!! X
Jun 27, 2012
cheryl penn
BEAUTIFUL new pages received from Lesley Magwood Fraser (South Africa), Cuan Miles (South Africa) and Marie Wintzer (Japan). AND contribution to Zine 2 from Guido Vermeulen. I've been clearing out my book studio because I've lost a camera chord. 4 hours later, still no luck... As soon as I'm back in the photographic business I'll show some images. :-) X
Jun 29, 2012
csaba
Hello
If possible I'd like to apply.
best:csaba
Jun 29, 2012
cheryl penn
GREAT Zine pages from Marie Wintzer (Japan) and Cuan Miles (South Africa)
Jul 2, 2012
cheryl penn
From Lesley Magwood Fraser (South aFrica) and Svenja Wahl (Germany) - each one of these pages is different - phew - A LOT of work!! Many many thanks :-) X
Jul 2, 2012
cheryl penn
Zine pages from Katerina Nikoltsou (Greece) (Issue 1 and 2), Stephanie Turnbull (UK) and Prof Roberto Scala (Italy) - many thanks - images on the morrow :-) X
Jul 6, 2012
cheryl penn
Issue 1 and 2 from Katerina - Grecian Blue for you :-) X
Jul 7, 2012
cheryl penn
From Stephanie Turnbull (UK) and Roberto Scala (Italy)
Jul 7, 2012
cheryl penn
From Mirta Caccaro (Italy) and Mail Art Martha (UK)
Jul 12, 2012
cheryl penn
From Dragan Jukic (Germany) and Yves Maraux (France) - beautifully hand printed pages from Dragan and handworked pages from Yves.
Jul 12, 2012
cheryl penn
Volume 2 contributions - from TICTAC (Germany) and Tizianna Baracchi (Italy). Please note - Zine 1 is full and Zine 2 is NEARLY full!! If you would like to participate in THREE Zines, send more work! And thank you - to artists like TICTAC and Tizianna, Guido and Rolan Halbritter who have sent for both :-) XX
Jul 12, 2012
cheryl penn
And when you follow TICTACs instructions to pull - OF COURSE there is something there!
Jul 12, 2012
Rebecca Guyver
HI Cheryl, I'm confused. Are we sending two or four images? I have one maybe two and ma struggling with three and four? I will definately be sending in but HELP life is just too needy at the moment!
Jul 12, 2012
cheryl penn
Rebecca - 27 pages, double sided. Some people have sent different images, some people have photocopied the same image - up to you - LIFE!!! Yip, know that one... X
Jul 12, 2012