What is ascemic writing?What is visual poetry?I have a pen pal who is interested in learning about them after telling her that I read Judith women making visual poetry and it was my favorite art book of 2021.Your responses will be printed and mailed…Continue
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Can ideas like this be included in the asemic type of development?Jazzy script in a kind of shorthand notation?Continue
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I am curious how members view the phenomenon of spontaneous asemics and if they ever experience something like I did this afternoon. I was tidying my workspace and while lifting a pile of paper I detected marks of ink that got stuck to the plastic…Continue
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The Martha Stuart School of Asemic WallpaperFounder:Martha StuartAdministration:Katerina Nikoltsou, Dean of AsemicsDiane Keys, Minister of Propaganda, Student AmbassadorSnooker the Amazing Mail-art Dog, Dean of MenDavid Stafford, Dean of WomenDe…Continue
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Hi I am new here because by chance I saw your question. I have used Fontographer to create my own fonts from drawings and it is easy and free. It will work with W7, I think. You need a painting /graphic program to create tiny drawings of each…Continue
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Adapted from Wikipedia Asemic writing is a wordless open semantic form of writing. The word asemic means “having no specific semantic content.” With the nonspecificity of asemic writing there comes a vacuum of meaning which is left for the reader to…Continue
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Some great asemic work by Carlyle Baker appears on the Post-Literate blog today (November 25). Carl is an active IUOMA member and his work has appeared on the M-L blog.
a jolly laugh starts the day
as the scabby apples
drop.
Lembratentive, Jan!
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John,after downloading Textis Globbolalicus Vol. III I can truly say it is lumivencent! Not only is it phintical in its syntefic nature, but the mictic surfolly really "cranks your crotch." Binga binga, indeed!
I suppose the language I invented, Globbolalia, and the poetry I wrote using it, can be considered asemic, in that it's not a language one could make a dictionary for. Most words are only used once! And it certainly can be performed, as it has been, by me and others. The definitive books are available in various formats - Textis Globbolalicus, in 3 volumes, you can find them with a Google search.
As a novice to asemics and asemic writing, I've been reading and appreciating the comments and views on it here. Thanks everyone for the recent insights. Jan, thanks for your nice words about my card. Perhaps I'll try the purist approach next time. In a way, I have an easier time understanding the purist approach. It makes sense to call it "writing" if it's something that looks like a language. I once read about creating one's own alphabet using made-up symbols. It might be fun to try it, then create an asemics writing with it. We'll see. :-)
I'm very familiar with "word salad" with my mother's decline into Alzheimer's back in the 90's. I even composed poetry around some of her phrases, like "winking in their troubles." Intended meaning? Not quite random, often still syntactically correct....Understandable if I was riding a wave of intimate communication?
I often talk gibberish to my dog---he seems to understand it about as well as he does my English :)
In a related vein, as a Zen priest and now nondual coach and facilitator I'm fascinated by the use of language to indicate This, that stands in for contentless awareness. Of course, as it's truly without content, words will never suffice, AND there is a way that words can take us beyond words. The 13th century Zen master Dogen was a master of phrases like, "mountains walking" that turned language (or is it our brains??) on their heads to bring about new ways of experiencing "reality" as do many koans. But this is a looooong subject (and at the same time very short.....) KATZ!!!
Asemic sign language - great!
When I was just getting into this back during the book projects (I've known about asemic writing for a long time but never really dug deep) John Bennett (JMB) talked about "spoken word asemics" (not sure what he called it) but people who do public performances and readings of asemics. First, I couldn't imagine how it could be done. He explained how people did various things akin to stuttering, talking with things stuffed in their mouths, speaking in tongues rants - then I thought it was the funniest thing I ever heard. I guess there are recordings of asemic performances. Blaster Al did them, I think. Someone said Ray Johnson did them.
So you're only limited by your imagination. People write asemic music on music score paper. I've never heard it performed but imagine that exists also.
"Word salad" - great topic Kerri! Certainly in poetry, DaDaist and a lot of postmodern, there is cut-up, word salad type constructs that have similarities to schizophrenia and other kinds of disassociation, while the writers are consciously using the fragmentation techniques to achieve an effect.
Certainly a lot of the "word salad" compositions (a lot of Langpo is like that) is a bridge between conventional writing and asemics. In some cases, the fragmentation is so severe it might be considered asemic because meaning is impossible to determine.
Jan it is very interesting and also helpful I think that you bring up asemics and sign language! Yes indeed there can be asemic sign language. I would not doubt there are Asemic ASL Performance Artists out there. However, that was not what happened with Obama's interpreter at Nelson Mandela's funeral. In that case, the interpreter had experienced a symptom of schizophrenia that is called "word salad." Word salad is a confused mixture of seemingly random words and phrases from the person's native language, therefore, semantics are present.
Great questions and observations, Jan.
That's why I can appreciate the position of asemic "purists" even if I don't personally follow it or encourage it.
Above is an asemic piece Geof Huth sent me. You can see just how close it is to cursive English while at the same time being elusive in terms of meaning. This would be a traditional piece, IMHO. (Geof is a fantastic visual poet btw.)
Asemics or asemic writing is different from images because asemics is supposed to suggest a language without having any real meaning. (Hence the discussion about codes not long ago.)
(This gets very theoretical. A picture of an apple is not language. But the word "apple" is language. In asemic writing, the language has been disconnected from that which it is supposed to signify. So you have strings of "meaningless signifiers.") Any way...
So it's sort of fake language. I've seen people refer to it as a kind of weak replication of language and thus inferior to language.
But so many people are experimenting with asemic writing these days using so many novel approaches that it's evolving beyond the original definition. To satisfy everybody in this group, I conceded much of the work was asemic-vispo hybrid.
A lot of visual artists post work they think is asemic on FB. And some of the asemic writers get really steamed because anything similar to abstract expressionism isn't necessarily asemic, although it might be.
Mail-artists, because vispo and concrete poetry is so prevalent, usually have a pretty good sense of what asemic writing is and isn't. Often it's on an intuitive level. There are always cases open for debate and folks have to agree to disagree.
In our great debate here, Moan Lisa finally proclaimed, "Everything is asemic." Well, that didn't go over well and the tense part of the debate began.
But I'd say generally the "language suggestive" clause provides an anchor.
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