Asemic Writing for Mail-Artists

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Comment by Kerri Pullo on March 31, 2013 at 10:42pm

Pullo Family Eggsemic Collab

Comment by Neil Gordon on March 31, 2013 at 10:11pm

Thanks DVS,wish i could high-tail it to Naropa!

Comment by De Villo Sloan on March 31, 2013 at 9:59pm

Silliman's anthology In the American Tree (I think originally published by the Poetry Foundation in Orono, Maine) was one of the things that contributed to the rise of Langpo.

It was a smaller scale version of what Don Allen achieved with the epic New American Poetry in 1960 and the Butterick/Allen retread in the 80s called the Postmoderns or something.

How the most obscure poets on the planet like Olson and Spicer became icons - well that was a feat.

Comment by De Villo Sloan on March 31, 2013 at 9:51pm

Karl Kempton is one of the Old Masters from the era of Richard Kostelanetz (spg?), Emmet Wiliams at Higgins' Something Else Press.

I think Ron Silliman is teaching at Naropa this summer - take a road trip to Boulder.

But a long way from Sanders' Investigative Poetry Seminars, Ginsberg, Burroughs, Leary, Jerry Garcia bankrolling the Jack Kerouac conference. Oh well.

Comment by Neil Gordon on March 31, 2013 at 9:42pm

Wow, love the plastic comb asemics DVS, and the Karl Kempton stuff!, Kerri;your work is incredible! SOOO FLOWING>>>

Comment by Neil Gordon on March 31, 2013 at 9:27pm

Nice overlays sometimes i try that w/ the old printer,,, Great typewriter F.Q, and Electrosemics Pulse Pullo

Comment by Neil Gordon on March 31, 2013 at 9:24pm

When i saw the Naropa stamp i almost fell out of my Chair, i may copy it to use in mail art! If you can dig stuff up, no rush!& like i said i will reimburse for the copies...

i will check w/ the library for the Silliman bk., Ben Porter, and Mac Low!

Thanks, you have an encyclopedic knowledge of this material, its very helpful DVS!

Comment by De Villo Sloan on March 31, 2013 at 8:45pm

Neil, yeah I do have Hannah Weiner manuscripts that were originally mimeoed or photocopied for the network. Gotta dig deep into the archives but will do my best.

You know, a lot what she did had a component of concrete or visual poetry now that you mention it. (I would be tempted to keep that Naropa stamped copy.)

It was great for her that she could practically go mainstream and do those books with good publishers.

When Silliman did his "In the American Tree" anthology he included a bunch of folks whom he considered near predecessors of Langpo, like Bern Porter, Jackson MacLow, and Hannah Weiner - that definitely brought her from the underground and into a bigger field, which can be good and bad. I never thought she was really Langpo, maybe the opposite in fact, but I've always loved her work.

Glad you found it.

Comment by De Villo Sloan on March 31, 2013 at 8:37pm

@ Kerri - note how your pic of the electric plant matches the concrete work Fatima & I posted.

A lot of this kind of work - Matt Stolte achieves this a lot - seems industrial & metalloid. The repetition & regularity probably has something to do with it.

In contrast, asemicists like Cheryl Penn seem to be developing something that is far more organic - given context by some earlier discussions of bio-poetry and Michael Mc Clure (using DNA models in some of his own work) made the strange but intriguing prediction poems in the future will evolve into living organisms. Now some poems I would be afraid to see as living organisms, but an interesting idea from the fella who penned: "Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."

Comment by Neil Gordon on March 31, 2013 at 8:30pm

YEY! Typewriter art!!! Life in analog....

DVS- Have been getting a lot of Hannah Wiener books from inter-library-loan, one even from the Naropa Institute Library! Hanah had an interesting approach to vispo and concrete at times,

You once mentioned you may have some copies of stuff she had done on some kind of mass -mailing that was popular at the time,-- if you have any copies of the stuff i would be happy to reimburse you for "Xeroxing" them for me!

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